When a Hawke's Bay man called to talk about his estranged transgender father, he wasn't expecting her to be listening to the radio.
"All of a sudden [my father] rings me up and says he wants to be a female," Lance told Magic Talk. "And that affected me quite a lot."
Lance hasn't spoken to his father ever since, telling Sean Plunket that "you can't change a gender".
"As far I'm concerned, I've lost a father."
But Lance's father, Gemma, was listening to Magic Talk the entire time. She called in shortly after Lance to explain her side of the story.
"I haven't heard from him. I had a 70th birthday, and nothing. We had a 48th wedding anniversary - nothing. I just think he's got a big problem."
"He's got the problem, not me. I'll speak to him anytime he wants to."
Listen to the calls from Lance and Gemma above.