Former Labour leader Mike Williams joins the conversation on Magic Talk Drive with stand in host Brendan Telfer to discuss the poll results that give Jacinda Ardern a commanding lead against Simon Bridges.
During the interview Brendan Telfer leaves Mike at a loss for words with the insightful remarks that Judith Collins has been sounding much more collected and reserved suspecting that she is poising herself to wrest leadership from Bridges.
I think you're right. I hadn't thought about it but perhps you're right.
On the question on whether or not to call a snap election Mike tells Brendan that he does not believe they would do it.
Watch the full interview above.