Former Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Chris Finlayson tells Sean Plunket that the treaty negotiations covering Ihumātao are "full and final".
Sean begins the interview by asking Chris to explain in plain terms for others what the process involved in treaty settlements looked like.
Chris explains how the process looks to build settlements through iwi by iwi negotiations, in particular for the area involved here.
Chris was explicit in stating that these treaty negotiations were full and final. He also tells Sean how the Green Party were supportive of the negotiations at the time.
They then move on to the question of private land under the treaty, that it is not possible to be taken by the crown through compulsory purchase, Chris says private land is absolutely not able to be interfered with by the state.
Absolutely, it was a fundamental principle that was taken.
The interview moved then to Chris' incredulity at Victoria Universtiy weighing in on the issue.
You can watch the full interview above.