Candidates to coach the All Blacks next are dropping by the day, with Rugby Australia appointing Dave Rennie to its Wallabies role on Wednesday.
The former Chiefs boss has signed a four-year deal that takes the Wallabies through to the 2023 Rugby World Cup in France.
Rennie replaces Michael Cheika, who chose not to seek re-appointment, after Australia's World Cup quarter-final exit.
Joining Ryan Bridge on Magic Talk Drive to discuss the news is author and former Wallaby Peter FitzSimons.
You can watch the full interview above.