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'In 2050, New Zealand is going to be a very different country demographically' - Harold Hillman

The Sunday Cafe - Magic Talk 15/06/2020

Roman Travers is joined by Dr Harold Hillman, executive coach to discuss workplace flexibility, and the Black Lives Matter movement sweeping the world.

Dr Hillman explains he is a lot “more optimistic than he was a couple of weeks ago,” on how the riots are making a statement in the world.

He says he is encouraged by “the number of young white people in the streets,” protesting and showing their support, “not only in New Zealand but in America”.

“In 2050, New Zealand is going to be a very different country demographically,” Dr Hillman goes on to say, and it’s not enough to say “I’m not racist”, by making a statement Dr Hillman encourages individuals to say “I’m anti racist.”

Listen to the full interview above.